John McCain, Hero or Traitor

If he was a hero than why was their a need to 'pardon' him?

March 29, 2017 10:48 pm

It's no wonder that President Trump is calling to drain the swamp. Treachery runs deep within our own party, with even the most respected members turning out to be corrupt.

https://www.teaparty.org/watch-john-mccain-gets-exposed-senate-floor-hes-not-says-226285/

Rand Paul squared off against John McCain and 97 other senators who voted to pledge our military to protect the small nation of Montenegro. "Nobody wanted to have this debate. They want to rubber stamp. They want no debates, and they want to send your kids to war," warned an impassioned Rand Paul.

02-21-17

33 POWs faced execution for treason after Vietnam until Nixon pardoned all POWs. McCain was on the list of the 33, in fact at the head of it.

Here are the facts as we know them:

According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCain's commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft.
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel.
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate.
These 4 accusations are the only real and supportable accusations against McCain. The evidence for these acts exists and is substantial. What is stranger still is McCain's longtime war against veterans, other POWs and their families. When John was a bit younger and better capable of looking after himself, he was often both verbally and physically abusive to POW families, POW activists and veterans. We hear nothing of these brutal outbursts of McCain's though they continue to this day, now taken as the ravings of a mental defective.

The door Donald opened should be kept open. We need to examine the POW phenomenon. After Vietnam, we allowed Nixon to glorify POWs while abandoning hundreds. The facts came to light during the late 1990s when tapes of conversations between Nixon and Kissinger were made ublic, for moments, with Kissinger admitting that American POWS held outside North Vietnam, in Laos, Cambodia and the South, were purposefully not included in the agreements, a number Kissinger put at over 200.

These tapes were cleaned from the media and are not available to even researchers, were such interested parties to exist, which they do not.

Vietnam was a useless war. I served in Vietnam as a Marine combat infantryman and know the war well close up.

Those of us that served felt abused and exploited and suffered far worse at the hands of Nixon and subsequent leaders who backed away from those of us who served as honorably as possible while engaging in a nutty frenzy of POW worship.

Trump is right, those who surrender are generally not heroes. Some were however, like Ted Guy, a man taken on the ground fighting, killing 4 of his captors.

Guy, however, is only one of many thousands, many many thousands, from Vietnam that should have received some aspect of recognition in a war where many more thousands lived like gods. Vietnam was a scam, drugs, prostitution, black market, the best food and hottest parties in the world for many who came home from the war with medals on their chests for doing nothing whatsoever.

I might add, the Saigon press club war correspondents were the worst of all, living like kings on little boys and little girls while being occasionally flown for "10 minutes of war" with a general, then back to the clubs and brothels. They all should have been locked in FEMA camps, were such things to exist.

As for the Donald, he should demand that, minimally, the American public be able to hear McCain's broadcasts and see the records of his debriefing and read the statements made against him by other POWs, including and especially Colonel Ted Guy.

This man, if you wish to call him that, "McCain" has been allowed to destroy America's security for two generations, along with friends like "light loafer Lindsey" Graham and others.

In one instance alone, the F35, McCain has personally destroyed America's defense capabilities for 25 years. This is his plane, his project, his monstrosity.

There hasn't been a defense scam in decades that hasn't had his hand prints on it. Time for Trump to get serious and show some backbone. McCain is a hard target, time for Trump to stop bashing the easy guys and take this one on.

History:

American POWs from Vietnam were the bloody flag Richard Nixon wrapped himself in, on the advice of Henry Kissinger, part of a ploy to divert attention from his endless personal failings which included his agreement with North Vietnam that let them keep and later execute hundreds of American POWs. 1205 American POWs were kept by North Vietnam according to records recovered at the end of the Cold War. President's Clinton and Yeltsin instituted a search of Russia's gulags looking for their remains with no success. In 1993, armed with testimony from a former high ranking Czech security official, I proposed a systematic search of archives in Prague that recorded the fate of 200 missing US POWs from Vietnam but was blocked by Senator John McCain.

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor (Veterans Today) July 20, 2015

From "Veterans Today" Feb 22 (2017?)
These are our questions to Senator McCain:
Why did you have your service record and POW debriefing classified FOREVER?
Did you provide military secrets to North Vietnam as stated by Colonel Earl Hopper of Army Intelligence?
Did you narrate 32 propaganda broadcasts for the North Vietnamese and give interviews to communist papers as is stated at www.mccainbetrayspows.com?
Why have you kept your Presidential Pardon secret? Did you know that you are the only person serving in Congress with a Presidential pardon?
Was Colonel Hopper accurate when he accused you of providing flight aths and altitude information to North Vietnamese gunners, to help them shoot down American planes?
Are you aware that Colonel Ted Guy was in the process of preparing treason charges against you when you received your presidential pardon?
Why did you work to end all POW inquires? Why are you referred to as the Manchurian Candidate by POW/MIA groups?

The powdered wig Society
The real John McCain. "33 POWs faced execution for treason after Vietnam until Nixon pardoned all POWs." McCain was #1 on the list
Here are the facts as we know them:

According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCain's commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft.
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel.
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate.

Gun Owners of America
McCain's Character -- A Disaster Waiting To Happen
The US Government never officially briefed the returning POWs about the egregious violations of the Paris Peace Accords -- by both Hanoi and Washington DC. Washington refused to pay the $4.25 billion President Nixon secretly promised in a February 1, 1973 letter to Premier Pham Van Dong -- and kept hidden from the Congress for three years; Hanoi failed to release the other group of 600 US POWs they were holding as an insurance policy against these funds.

Wikileaks Uncovers Something That Could Put Trump-Hating John McCain IN PRISON

March 23, 2017 10:43 pm

(Angry Patriot) - Arizona Senator John McCain has been very vocal about how much he dislikes President Trump. Unfortunately f or McCain, WikiLeaks has uncovered something shocking and illegal from his past! According to the open-source media organization, McCain's presidential campaign in 2008 sent a letter to Vitaly Churkin, the then Russian ambassador to the United Nations. While the letter is mostly a boilerplate request for anywhere between $25 and $5,000, it is clearly addressed to Churkin, an official representative of Moscow (via WikiLeaks).


http://www.powfoia.org/ted.htm
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/31/time-to-hanoi-john-mccain-packing/
http://www.pythiapress.com/wartales/McCain-Shootdown.htm
http://powderedwigsociety.com/the-real-john-mccain-20012/#
https://www.gunowners.org/mcdis.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mrMhiRrbvs
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/18/trump-right-about-hanoi-john-mccain/